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Savage Unrealities

Posted by: jonschoening | March 15, 2008 |

One of the main reasons I wanted to get into this EdS. program was because we would learn how to critically evaluate programs of instruction and curriculum. In addition, I have learned a great deal about constructivist pedagogy, instructional evaluation, multiculturalism, research practices, and reflection. Using my newly polished educator lenses and my experience, I would have to say that Ruby is overgeneralizing a serious issue to quanitify something that can be packaged, easily understood, and sold. Her views on poverty are too simple. I have seen poverty with my own eyes that she describes in her vignettes, but I have seen some wealthy people act in the same manner that she describes as traits linked to poverty. There are deplorable character traits across all classes and all cultures. I have seen children abused by poor as well as wealthy parents. Drug abuse and sexual promiscuousness does not stop at 15K a year. Violence and a lack of respect of life does not start once you are put on welfare. Her views on poverty do not require any deep reflection or change in sociopolitical practice to correct the problem; all that is needed is teaching the poor to act middle-class, right.

Poverty is not a disease that needs a cure or a war that needs to be won; it is a group of people who have needs, not wants, that are not being met. They deserve respect and kindness, not generalizations and empty promises.

The reality is that some people find themselves living in poverty from their poor choices and others just from circumstances that are out of their control. That is the truth. You cannot lump them all together into one corner and fulfill all their needs in the same way. It is complicated and larger than Ruby Payne or Gorski. To make progress and a positive impact, we need serious people making serious policy changes on a national scale before things get better.

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Hey Jon,
I so agree with the points you made. Thank you for understanding the point I was trying to make - I think you might have been the only one who got it. In fact, I am not a big Ruby Payne supporter; however, that does not negate the fact that I did learn a little something from her workshop…maybe not what she intended me to learn, but… I agree we have to be careful not to overgeneralize either way: that people who live in poverty need to be “fixed” and/or that the problem of poverty is only because of social issues within society that need to be fixed. In fact, that is one problems I had with one of the articles written by Gorski. Although I agree that as a society we need to make things more equitable for people living in poverty, we also need to make individuals accountable for their choices, as you mentioned. I know of some families who are on the verge of eviction, using food stamps to feed their children, yet they have a play station, a game cube, and/or a WII and are out buying games every other week. That is very disturbing to me. I also know of several families who had it all and because of a few poor choices lost everything. My whole point was that as educators we need to always think for ourselves and evaluate the information we receive…not just jump on every bandwagon because someone tells us to. I always love hearing your thoughts…thanks!

I agree with you, Jon, that sometimes people find themselves living in poverty because of circumstances that are out of their control. I agree with Molly that we shouldn’t overgeneralize about poverty. I’ve known people who have been extremely wealthy one year, then extremely “broke” the next year because of the economy or poor choices. My brother was a golf course architect who designed and built golf courses around the world, but his business depended on a healthy economy, and he had many serious ups and downs financially. Life can throw us curves — unexpected curves — that that can leave us in unexpected places.

Speaking of unexpected places, I don’t think any of us realized that this EdS program would lead us in the direction we’ve gone. What a thought-provoking experience this has been!

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